unbillable hours – the podcast

S3E4 – Complex services

“Ok, so: How do you market an uber-complex b2b service to a super-heterogenous target group?” – was (roughly) the question we asked delivery-as-a-service platform Gophr’s CEO, Seb Robert, and his marketing director Chris Mason for this one. Listen to their compelling answers here:


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Episode guests: Seb Robert, Founder and CEO, Gophr, and Gophr’s Director of Marketing, Chris Mason.

Voices, production, etc. by Ash and Flo.
Creative and design advice by @calmar.creativ
Into, outro voiceover by @iamthedakota
Music also by @iamthedakota


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We’re always interested in hearing about how other experts think about the ideas we discuss. So, if you have feedback on this episode, or a view on “better” professional services marketing – do reach out!